hey, sexy!

Jeez! Anything is art, these days! It looks like a half melted "Caution: Floor Is Wet" sign!

I really like it. And I can see it well, doesn't look like a melted sign at all. Some people just have no creative mind.

OMG! Are we looking at the same image? It doesn't look made. It looks like it was found in a dumpster!

I ask you to answer this honestly.

If you had never seen that image before, and found the actual item in a trashcan out in the street of a rough neighborhood, would it even enter your mind to consider that object as "art"?

I would bet large amounts of money that 99% of passers by would be afraid to even touch it!

>>70551
Yea it does look like art. Obviously you don't see much REAL art. Not faggot animu guro to fap to. I AM a artist, and I like this. You are probably not a artist because obviously you know nothing about art.

It reminds me of this artists stuff...

>>70357
Link to more of your stuff maybe?

I like it. It looks like a crippled creature. I think maybe that's how you see yourself because you said it was a self portrait. It looks like a modest crippled thing. It's really cute but kinda creepy too. This guy >>70551 said it looked like something you could find in a trashcan. I like that, maybe that's how you think of yourself. Maybe you see yourself as over looked and thrown out. Poor thing. <333

Link to more of your work?

This thread is now about art that has the same 'feel' and appeal as the OP's piece.

It's like tim burtin-ish but darker, and more vintage looking.

>>70563>>70564

Yeah, except that artist has some talent.

Go be an artiste somewhere else, Oleg Gurov, you pretentious bastard.

>>70551

I can never understand this. Why are people so quick to bash artists who work in non-traditional media? So many people are just too narrow minded! Go back to 4-chan and fap, you boor!

I created this piece to honor the PETA movement. I call it "Death of Fur"

(Hopefully this won't start another furry flame war!)

>>70632
So many people are just too narrow minded! Go back to 4-chan and fap, you boor!

exactly what I thought.

>>70632
I hope this is ironic.

I'm so tired of "high minded" artistes.

>>70632
And here's one I like to call "Death of Another PETA Moron While Trying to "Liberate" Lab Animals."

>>70714

That was uncalled for!

>>70566

Reminds me of Ren abd Stimpy

>>70729
Not so. Every voice in my head called for it.

>>70632

i can has dryer lint?

>>70786

Bravo! I was waiting to find out how long it would take for someone to see that my "ART" was nothing but actual real garbage! It is indeed dryer lint, dumped onto an upside down plastic tray from an Acme party platter!

As proof, I give you the fabulous "Before" picture!

But first >>70647 thought it was art. and I think >>70672 and >>70714 did too. They thought I was one of the "high minded" artistes! I was the one who posted >>70380 and >>70551 too, by the way. I just wanted to prove that Candy-ass art-fags can be conned into thinking ANYTHING is art!

For some reason I got into the habit of putting the lint I cleared from my clothes dryer's lint trap inot a plastic coffee can. That is about a year and a half's worth!

>>70809

Actually, I was hoping you were a troll.

I'm the one who made the "high-minded" comment.

See, I go to an art school, so I have to deal with this type of thing every day. I'm so weary of art-fags and Marcel Duchamp wannabes. The sad thing is that the wannabes don't even know who Duchamp is. They think the Great White-Wigged Faggot is the first one to troll the art world.

Mostly, I'm tired of the ones who don't realize that they're being trolled, and really, wholeheartedly believe that the shit (sometimes literally) they are being fed is "true art". What a crock.

Why don't I leave? Sadly, because what I want to be requires I go to this school.

ITT: Dada has a new face of trolldom (Dada, as amusing as it was, did consist of precursors to trolls... still, L.H.O.O.Q. had a 'societal knock' view that keeps me amused)

I was the person defending you at first, then when you posted the second piece I was like "uh..."

hehe XD

I'll tell you what TRUE art is.

TRUE Art as you call it is "beauty and wonder in the eye of the creator and in the eye of the beholder"

So TRUE Art can be whatever you want as long as it was made for creativity's sake rather than for attention and money and aslong as someone gains pleasure from viewing it. Personally, my favourite piece of TRUE Art is life, for it iso intricate and complex.

But yeah, all you money-grubbing, pretentious bastards can take your emotional expression seen in dirty bedsheets and cracks in the floor to hell with you untill you can come up with an idea purely for the fact that you like it, K? No-one is interested in how "DEEP" you can be, just how creative you can be! By creative, I don't mean with adjectives to describe your dot on a page, I mean with something that you truly enjoyed making just because you could!

You folks might be interested in this article:
tinyurl.com/ydddshv
It shows what sort of morons actually "run" the art community.

wtf does any of this have to do with /f/

technically, anything that expresses feelings/thoughts is art, it becomes purer when it's done for the intention to express without interest in social or economical gain.

So yea, pretty much anything can be art, it's the thought that counts.

>>70840

Nothing at all! Oh, and your sage attempt didn't work.

>>70835

>and aslong as someone gains pleasure from viewing it.

I don't think that's necessary. art can be disturbing and just as valid.

>>71033
Disturbing in a good way to some. Controversial to others. Controversy draws attention, makes it sell.

>>70975
Mother of god.
Do you even know what sage means?

>>70632

That looks like a pile of laundry on my bedroom floor. I understand that modern art is as about making people think and find their own conclusions to the work but seriously.

>>71101

This european art museum just bought one of famous surreal artist's works. It was a dark room. Literally, it was just a room with lights off, and the artist told it symbolises the meaning of life. Thats it.

I cant find it anywhere on google, but I read it on our local newspaper. I'd love to know the sum of how much that art museum paid the artist for this piece of "art".

>>71091

Yes I do, asshole. It's not just an insult. If you use sage correctly in the proper fields, the thread no longer bumps to the front page when people post on it. It looks like you're the one who doesn't know what it means.

Years ago, in the city of Philadelphia, i was asked to leave a small art gallery due to my excessive laughter. I swear this is true, buy the way. I saw the 'ART" with my own eyes, and couldn't stop laughinga at it!!!

The two featured pieces that had me in hysterics were:

(1) A large number of portable TVs arranged in a semi-circle on the floor. They were all on, displaying static via screen and speakers. There were a couple of clothing store type mannequins
(Not sculptures or statues. They were the mass produced mannequins you see in stores like The Gap!)
The mannequins were sitting down facing the screens as if watching them..

(2) A photograph of an intact egg, pristine in it's gleaming uncracked shell. The egg was sitting on a featureless white plate, with a featureless white surface, that blended seamlessly into a featureless white background. The white was all the exact same shade, and lit in such a way that there was no visible shadow.. oddly enough, the 'ARTIST' used color film!!!

Thinking about it still makes me grin!

>>71101

Read the thread, don't just look at the pictures! I posted
>>71101 and >>70809 to prove a point!

>>71130

More about the egg art and TV art. I don't consider it art if ANYONE can EXACTLY replicate it in a matter of minutes, even if they have no artistic talent! I mean, really! A freakin' egg sitting on a shiny white plate? I can make an exact duplicate picking up all materials at the Dollar Store, for God's sake!

One trip to the flea market, armed with a fifty dollar bill would be enough for the TV piece!

Someone mentioned the "Dark Room" I actually own that! I have a room upstairs in my house that has nothing in it. I put cardboard over the windows to keep it from getting like an oven in the summer. It's pitch black dark, 24-7!!!

Where's my gallery showing?!?!?!?!?

>>71132

But did you do any of that? No.
Why don't you quit your bitching and actually try to make some art and get it into a gallery or museum, if it's that easy
Are we all Shakespeares if we know how to speak English? Sure, maybe we're capable of stringing a couple sentences of Hamlet together, we're familiar with all the terms. But did we do it first? No.
If you want to argue about what exactly art is, don't go throwing out that timeless, idiotic statement "I could have done that." The definition of art is actually an interesting topic, so come up with a more intelligent way to talk about it.

>>71128
No need to call names or start DRAMA.

Sage is not an insult, only if you believe it is.
Sage's only function is make a post not bump. If I deem my post off-topic, like yours and my own, I would rather not make it bump the thread OR if I deem the thread stupid or off-topic,Ii would rather not bump it to the top of the page, but rather hope it would sink down to the bottom by itself.

I really don't understand why people think sage is some kind of insult. Maybe because they come straight from /b/ or something.

Art ... Whatever the artist and his/her willing accomplices can con a gulible public into thinking is creative. Artists, these days, are just another of a long line of "snake oil" peddlers trying to sell their crap. I know of at least one "artist" who has, literally, canned his shit and sold it. Like I said, the gullible.

>>71130

In an art museum at our capital, there was an artwork of a waffle, with a little microphone in it, making farting noises.

>>71132

Most of that surreal art is fine, but you can easily see how much effort has been put into one work, and how little on something else. Also, you cannot simply claim a "dark room" is your latest artwork, just because you saw the red string in the essence of a dark room, and made up some shitty explanation on how artsy one dark room is.

Thats where "I could have done that" applies. And people SHOULD say that in an art gallery. I could easily create same quality art by taking a shit on top of a pikachu-doll, and then say its meant to symbolise the quality of our current media. And that would be on the same par on effort as the "dark room", and any other shitty artworks like that.

In such artwork, artists are just lazy, and they rely on their fame/notoriety to do their work for them. Thats an insult for all those who actually put many hours of effort into their art.

>>71182

and you can't say something isn't art just because it didn't take a long time.
people who go into an art gallery and spend the entire time going "I could have done that" and clearly still have not are total douchebags.

>>70551

are you mentally retarded/younger than 16?

>>71188

Nope, I'm just not sheep who thinks something is art, just because someone told him it was.

Here is an example of what I consider art.

"Caryatid Who Has Fallen under Her Stone"

by Auguste Rodin

I posted
>>70551
>>70632
>>70809
>>71130
and
>>71132

people should be allowed to vote on art. if more than half of the population thinks that something the government is about to pay for is a piece of pretentious crap, it should be sacked.

Historically, people who have been recognized as "artistically talented" have been highly critical of their own work (not merely humble about it), while people who have a high opinion of their own work are generally lost to time.

>>71213
>>71243
>>71244

no one cares about your stupid opinions. go bawwww somewhere else.
rodin is in no way /f/ appropriate material.

>>71184

Thing is, I do art as a hobby, so I have something to say on that. Lot more to say than you.

And effort is not always measured with time put unto the artwork. Usually you can easily see how much effort has been put to an artwork. Artists should always remember that they are there to serve the viewers, they are responsible for delivering the image and symbolism for the viewer. Being egoistic and giving the responsibility to the viewer is just childish. Go ask Conceptart.org if you dont believe me.

>>71243

Are you trying to assimilate art with a bill?

No. Go take an art history class.

>>71269

way to assume that I don't do art as well.
and I suggest that you familiarize yourself with something called reader-response criticism. it has applications in music and art as well as literature.

>>71269

Did you create the picture you posted? This I DO consider as art!
I posted
>>71213

Not a new discussion about the definition or value of art... speak about beating a dead horse.
I'm so tired about hearing the same arguments about "art of craftmanship" vs "art lies in the eye of the beholder" crowds.
Maybe you should start to inform yourself about the subject at other places than conceptart.org, while there are a lot of amazing artists on that site, the community is hardly unbiased.

>>71345
Oh like you have someone to go to bed with! Lawl.

>>71321
A dead horse and a chair spinning upside-down and a girl crawling out of the well and the n the TV screen to suck off my rock-hard cock?

>>71409
all that and more in a blood filled honeycomb

>>71405
that has got to be the single most retarded thing I have ever heard anyone say on this site

>>71321

That community is about art as a profession. As a real labor. And thats how art should be. Of course theres that other culture around, where your fame matters more than what kind of artwork you actually do. I'm sorry but I just really cannot consider 3 blank papers and one hair attached them horizontally from the middle-as art. It's a mockery of all those artists who actually put some effort to their works. Its an insult for those who study different art forms for years to create something actually artistic.

>>71302

Yeah that was mine, I might make an oekaki dump-thread here soon.

>>71274

Well, you havent shown any of your work. Plus the way how effort is being shown, how and what you can critisize varies in each medium. Literature is easy in a way, that if the writer slacks off and just writes a bunch of cryptic words in order to look different, people will think its shit. Quality is more easy to define with literature.

In my humble opinion:
<--/DIS/.

>>71473

then you have obviously never read a single post made by waru.

>>71546

seconded.

Привет, Олег. Как на работе? Ваш банк еще не закрылся?
Я думаю тебе лучше продолжать своё творчество, чем >>71345.

>>71546
>>71582

Keep up the idiotic pre-pube bully fallacies, anon-holes... you make me laugh with your punching-bag mentalities. What would you do if I didn't participate in that idiotic "crazy person" thread? Hmm? You'd do NOTHING, for you are bored, shallow mockeries of humans... The fact that you use me as your pitiful excuses shapes and defines you two as you are portrayed on gurochan, today. in short...

...I... MADE... YOU!!

>>71615
You've made nothing, Waru.
...except an ass of yourself, once again. As for your rhetorical question what would we do...

We'd all breathe a long-overdue sigh of relief that a loud-mouthed, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual windbag sputtered out his last cloud of flatulence and fucked off at long last.

Protip: There's a real difference between having a large vocabulary, using it well, and shoe-horning in every spiffy new "big word" you learned today from "It Pays To Enrich Your Wordpower" in back issues of Reader's Digest. It isn't our fault that your proctologist is a stingy bastard who stocks his waiting room with such shitty reading material. You really should have listened to your Aunt Edna the first time she caught you with a finger up your ass at age five. If you play with it long enough, you're going to break it.